Comparing the PT-1845 to the PT-1445
Picture from the Power-Trac web site in 2003 showing off a lineup of the 1460, 1445, 1430 and 425
After the Fire
After the fire in the engine compartment of my Power-Trac PT-1845 I debated whether to replace the PT-1845 with another model. This page is a collection of information I gathered to help me decide which way to go. In the end I decided the PT-1845 was the right model for my needs and that I could rebuild the tractor.
PT1845 vs PT1445
I had this conversation with Terry Estep of Power-Trac on May 29, 2003. I paraphrase here:
Will a 1445 climb and mow a 30 degree slope? It's not a slope mower and will be more top heavy than the 1845 but yes it will mow and climb 30 degrees just fine.
Does the 1445 use the same wheel motors as the 1845 - does it have plenty of torque? The 1445 wheel motors are much heavier and there is plenty of torque. It's slower though - the 1845 really moves!
I assume the wheelbase is longer on the 1445 and the turning radius is greater, right? Right.
And the 1445 weighs more - is the extra weight on the front? Not all of it - the back section is longer and heavier too.
Can the 1445 (T18) quick attach be modified to accept 1845 (T12) attachments? I can't say that it can. But a clever guy.... the flows and everything are adequate.
Is the quick attach just heavier or is it bigger too? It's wider and a different shape - designed to only receive its own catagory T18 attachments. We've had guys put an 18 cu ft bucket on a 425 and you just can't do that. So now each catagory has its own plate.
Exchanging the 10-16.5 Loader tires (91 inch rolling circle) on the 1445 for 33x12.50-15NHS(TL) Flo-Trac Lug (a bar tire with 100 inch rolling circle) (Titan catalog number 41G3H1) would increase ground speed by about 10%. It would also increase ground clearance (a plus), raise center of gravity (a minus), increase overall width to 62 inches (a plus for stability - a minus for maneuverability)(Power-Trac PT-1845 Articulated Tractor with bar tires is 58 inches wide). These would fit the 15 x 10 rims the optional bar tires use. See tractor tire specs chart below.
As an expedient while getting a 1445 to 1845 adapter fabricated, it may be possible to put the 1845 male quick attach plate on the 1445, with bushings to adjust pin size if needed, assuming the center to center distance between lift arms is the same. Or maybe put the whole 1845 lift arm assembly on, again assuming the distance between arms is the same. See Attachments for 1845 quick attach dimensions.
Table - Spec Comparison - extracted from 2003 Power-Trac web site 5/03 (an attempt will be made to correct several errors and contradictions on PowerTrac's web site with obviously questionable info in [bold brackets] and verified info in bold italics).
Spec Comparison | PT-1445 | PT-1845 | PT-1850 | PT-1460 |
Engine | 45 HP | 45 HP | 65 HP | 60 HP |
Weight | 3920 lb | 3315 lb Single 3463 lb Dual | 3848 lb Dual | 5620 lb |
Speed | 10 mph | [8 mph] | [8 mph] | 10 mph |
Tires | 10:00 x 16.5 6-ply Loader | Dual 23-8:50x12 4 ply Bar | Dual 26-12:00x12 4 ply Bar | 12:00x16.5 8 ply Loader |
Optional Tires | [31-15:50x15 4-ply Turf] * | Single 26-12:00x12 4 ply Bar (as received, but no longer offered - jhc) | [31-15:50x15 4 ply Turf] * | |
Tractor Width | 56" Single 64" Optional | 69" Dual 58" Single (jhc measured) | 84" Dual | 59" Single 66" Optional |
Length | 136" | 146" | ||
PTO | 15 GPM @ 3,000 psi | 15 GPM @ 3,000 psi | 18 GPM @ 3,200 psi | 18 GPM @ 3,000 psi |
Fuel Tank capacity | 12 Gallon | 12 Gallon | 12 Gallon | 12 Gallon |
Hydraulic Oil Tank | 20 Gallon 10W40 | 20 Gallon 10W40 | 20 Gallon 10W40 | 20 Gallon 5W30 |
Lift Capacity | 1,800 lbs | 1,200 lbs | 1,200 lbs | 2,400 lbs |
Lift Height | 7 ft | 6 ft | 6 ft | 8 ft |
Inside Turning Radius | [53"] | 59" | 66" | 70" |
Outside Turning Radius | 114" | 113" | 134" | 132" |
Wheel Base | 74" | 71" (jhc measured) | 74" | 82" |
Ground Clearance | 10" | 12" | ||
Lights | 36 Watt; 2 front; 1 rear | 36 Watt; 2 front; 1 rear | ||
ROPS | Standard | Meet SAE specs | Meet SAE specs | Standard |
Frame | 1/4" to 3/4" Steel Plate | 1/4" to 3/4" Steel Plate | 1/4" to 3/4" Steel Plate | 3/8 to 1" Steel Plate |
Brakes | Wet Disc Spring Applied Hydraulic Release | Wet Disc Spring Applied Hydraulic Release | ||
Maximum Slope | 40 degrees | 45 degrees | ||
Price | $16,000 | $19,000 | $23,000 | $19,000 |
Quick Attach Plate | T18 / $200 | T12 / $150 | T12 / $150 | T24 / $250 |
* No such size that I can find - I think they mean 31x13.50-15, (which has an inadequate Max Load rating). I stand corrected - as pointed out by Bob Schafer (Bob999) on TBN, Goodyear does make this size. See below for a Standard vs Optional comparison chart.
Tire specs for Standard and Optional tires offered by PowerTrac on their 1400 and 1800 series tractors. See spec comparison chart above.
(From the Titan Store)
PT1445 | Loader / Optional Turf | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load |
Standard | 10-16.5 NHS(TL) Titan Trac Loader 6 ply | 10.4 | 30.8 | 91 | 3500 |
Optional* | 31x13.50-15NHS(TL) Titan Multi Trac C/S 4 ply | 13.9 | 31.5 | 92 | 1650** |
PT1845 | Dual Bar / Optional Single Bar | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load |
Standard | 23x8.50-12NHS(TL) Titan Tru Power 4 ply | 8.2 | 22.4 | 66 | 1115 |
Optional | 26x12.00-12NHS(TL) Titan Tru Power 4 ply*** | 12.3 | 25.6 | 76 | 1780 |
PT1850 | Dual Bar | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load |
Standard | 26x12.00-12NHS(TL) Titan Tru Power 4 ply | 12.3 | 25.6 | 76 | 1780 |
PT1460 | Optional Turf | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load |
Standard | 12-16.5 NHS(TL) Titan Trac Loader 8 ply | 12.2 | 33.4 | 98 | 4220 |
Optional | 31x13.50-15NHS(TL) Titan Multi Trac C/S 4 ply | 13.9 | 31.5 | 92 | 1650* |
*Power-Trac lists their optional tire as 31x15.50-15 Turf 4-ply - Titan doesn't offer this size but as pointed out by Bob Schafer (Bob999) on TBN, Goodyear does. Here's their spec:
Note: Since this chart was assembled Goodyear has sold its farm tire business in the United States and Canada to Titan Tire Corporation. For information on Goodyear branded farm tires in the United States and Canada, please click the link below. http://www.titan-intl.com
PT1445 | Loader / Optional Turf | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load |
Optional* | 31x15.50-15NHS(TL) SOFTRAC 4 ply | 15.2 | 31.2 | 89.4 | 1710** |
**This seems inadequate - Titan also makes these Turfs in 8 and 10 ply with a highter Max Load Rating
Available Turf | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load | |
Available | 31x13.50-15NHS(TL) Titan Multi Trac C/S 8 ply | 13.9 | 31.5 | 92 | 2600 |
Available | 31x13.50-15NHS(TL) Titan Multi Trac C/S 10 ply | 13.9 | 31.5 | 92 | 3080 |
Some more possibilities
Turf / Bar | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load | |
Available | 36x13.50-15NHS(TL) Titan Multi Trac C/S 4 ply | 15 | 36 | 106 | 2600 |
Available | 33x12.50-15NHS(TL) Titan Flo Trac Lug 8 ply | 12.8 | 33.3 | 100 | 3300 |
***Some other suppliers of 26x12.00-12 tires
Brand | Tread | OA Width | OA Dia | Rolling Circle | Max Load |
Galaxy | Super Trencher I-3 bar 8 ply | 12.3 | 25.7 | 11.7 SLR (73.5) | 3020 |